Curse

Lord Cooper · Jul 27, 2006, 12:43 PM // 12:43

i was thinking of using IW as its about the only viable non conditional counter i can see in the mesmer line. will i be able to kill him with it before he kills me with the likes of crystal wave, tenais crystals (the faction variant of crystalwave), obsidian flame and stone daggers?

Terra Xin · Jul 27, 2006, 12:56 PM // 12:56

erm... no...^^ but you can throw on Mantra on Earth and hope for the best^^

Yanman.be · Jul 27, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

Crystal wave goes straight through mantra of earth 3> or is it <3?

Lord Cooper · Jul 27, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27

yes it does it ignores all armour and magic resistances.

ok well thanks for the suggestions guys. ill hit and run with IW while he has OF up. when it drops ill slap a backfire and heavy degen on him and try and drain his energy via interrupts (with mantra of resolve up you lose energy everytime it stops an interrupt. so ill use that to interrupt him and drain his energy hopefully. hes got a good build for taking down a mesmer i think so this is going to be close

Lord Cooper · Jul 27, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27

yes it does it ignores all armour and magic resistances.

ok well thanks for the suggestions guys. ill hit and run with IW while he has OF up. when it drops ill slap a backfire and heavy degen on him and try and drain his energy via interrupts (with mantra of resolve up you lose energy everytime it stops an interrupt. so ill use that to interrupt him and drain his energy hopefully. hes got a good build for taking down a mesmer i think so this is going to be close

Pick Me · Jul 27, 2006, 02:23 PM // 14:23

Signet of Humiltiy - disables target's elite skill for 1 to 13 seconds. Stops the repeat use of Obsidean Flesh

Braggi · Jul 27, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

I first thought hexes don't count as spells, but the stupid holy griffons' enchant I encountered some time ago means they are, hex spells.

Then I'd go the signet road. There's a mantra to speed up recharge, and keystone signet {E}. 2 interrupts, nice.

As fast cast doesn't apply to signets (at least guru says so, I never really tried) I can take domination, inspiration and another attribute - I'd suggest monk secondary with 2 more damaging smiting signets for knockdown or kd chance, maybe balthazar's aura for 10s unconditional damage or stonesoul (skill) for more damage against knocked down enemies...

Can chaos storm be cast on allies? I'm not sure and not able to check atm, but I regularly used it to protect Alesia. If so, as he's slow you could cast it on yourself when close up, but I think I just targeted a foe close to her.

Evilsod · Jul 28, 2006, 02:35 AM // 02:35

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Crystal wave goes straight through mantra of earth 3> or is it <3?

So this is an E/A with Deaths Charge now is it? Obsidian Flesh was 50% slow the last time i looked, easiest way to counter it is either interupt it or just walk off.

Eaimirth Etaivella · Jul 28, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51

Ok I am ignoring my last post.
Leech signet the obsidian flesh the next time it refreshes; then powerblock it the next-next time. Spam whatever you want to stay alive in that time, reversal of fourtune...whatever. It doesn't really matter to be honest. He has 81 energy you have 54 your spells are are more energy effective than his blah blah blah...

Leech signet for the win interrupt the stupid obsidian then kill him. Killing him is your preference; you can use shatter enchantment, energy burn, energy surge, I would use powerspike some would use illusionary wep which is also a good choice...add illusion of weakness if you are going that route for longitivity bonus...

Basically
Mantra of earth-keeper
Leech Signet-keeper

Domination-ish build
-powerspike
-energy burn
-guilt
-powerblock

Illusion
-Illusion of Weakness
-Illusionary Weaponary

there ya go

Braggi · Jul 31, 2006, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella

Leech signet for the win interrupt the stupid obsidian then kill him.

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Originally Posted by Lord Cooper

ive also seen him use mesmer 2ndary and mantra of resolve where he feels interrupts may be a problem.

Against the Mesmer/obsidian build your suggestion doesn't work, because you can't interrupt him when he's recasting. It just costs him some mana, which he can afford every 45 sec.
Sure, he can't catch the mesmer (too slow), but the messmer can't hurt him eather. That's why I suggested the signet build.

Francis Demeules · Jul 31, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54

And if they use Ignore def spells like Crystal wave and Obsidian Flame, Prot spirit do the trick to confuse them and they will wonder why they dont do big dmg

You can try Shame/Guilt spell (always forgot which one) if they do Echo Obsidian Flesh

Kai Nui · Aug 01, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42

Leech Signet and Signet of Disruption can bypass it without removing it to interrupt. Divert their obsidian flesh or just run away since they'll be moving 50% slower lol.